Elisa's ADC
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My experience wasn't exactly mine, but my daughter's experience, but I felt her
death very closely.
I was pregnant with Oihane, and I was
experiencing a very intense stage, where I was recuperating and changing from
within. That night I had been crying in my bed in the company of Jon my husband,
and at a certain moment I felt that I needn't cry any more, as now I had freed
everything that had stuck with me since childhood.
Just at this moment I started to feel an
energy, physical, real, like when passing your hand over the screen of an old
type TV, that produced an immense peace and happiness. This energy ran through
me directly to my body, and expanded, and rose to up above. I could feel her and
touch her with my hands, I thought... What is this! And I said to Jon, Jon! Come
here, come here, give me your hand, it's Oihane, she is comforting me! Oihane is
comforting me! Put you hand here, do you feel it too? How strong!
It was half a minute or so, it made me so
happy, so tranquil and at peace, that I quickly fell asleep.
I thought that it had been a sort of
communication between her and myself, I never imagined that she had died, and
didn't know that sometimes the little bodies of small babies that are no longer
alive can stay in their mothers for a long time. This is how I
woke up, with the belief that I would have a second daughter, so
convinced, and that our communication would always be very intense.
The 13th April came, the day when
I had to go for a second ultrasound scan, week 20, halfway through the term.
From that day 2 weeks had passed, the two happiest weeks, and weeks of feeling
better than ever in my whole life up to now.
The doctor said to me that
Oihane had died. That brings us to...to some two weeks.
I was admitted to the hospital straight
away, they gave me two lots of tablets to try and start the contractions. She
had to come out, as she would have if she had been alive. The birth of my first
daughter had been chaos, and very violent, but this was another step, and I knew
that Oihane was accompanying me. It was a goodbye ritual. Two days to begin the
work of the birth. I was very centred on myself, doing my asanas (yoga) and at
the moment I opened my arms I left myself. I let it happen. Then after several
hours of waiting, everything happened very quickly, in half an hour it had been
done.
I cried as much as I should cry, and I knew
what her death had taught me. I felt accompanied at every moment, and I knew
that she was there all the time, and I had to accept, and I have accepted, that
there are some things we just don't know...that there is so much in this world
that our eyes never see...
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Mi experiencia no ha sido exactamente mía, sino
de mi hija, pero yo sentí de cerca su muerte.
Estaba embarazada de Oihane, y estaba saliendo
de una etapa muy intensa donde me estuve yo sanando y cambiando por dentro. Esa
noche había estado llorando en la cama con la compañía de Jon, mi marido, y en
un momento dado sentí que ya no tenía más por llorar, que ya había liberado todo
lo que tenía atascado desde la niñez.
En ese momento empezé a sentir una energía,
física, real, como cuando pasas la mano por un televisor antiguo, que producía
una inmensa calma i alegría. Esa energía me atravesaba directamente el cuerpo, y
se expandía, subía hacia arriba. Yo podía sentirla y tocarla con las manos,
pensé..., qué es esto! Y le dije a Jon: ¡Jon, ven, ven, dame tu mano! Es Oihane,
me está consolando! Oihane me está consolando! Pon aquí tu mano, tú lo sientes
también? Qué fuerte!
Fue medio minuto o así, y tan alucinada me
quedé, tan tranquila y en paz, que me dormí rápido.
Yo pensaba que había sido una especie de
comunicación entre ella y yo, no podía imaginarme que había muerto, ni sabía que
a veces los cuerpecitos de los bebés sin vida pueden quedarse dentro de la madre
durante un tiempo largo. Así que desperté creyendo que tendría una segunda hija
con una fuerza impresionante, y que nuestra comunicación sería siempre muy
intensa.
LLegó el 13 de abril, el día que tenía que ir a
la segunda ecografía, semana 20, mitad del embarazo. Desde ese día habían pasado
ya 2 semanas, las 2 semanas más alegres y con más sensación de fuerza de toda mi
vida hasta hoy.
El médico me dijo que Oihane yacía sin vida.
Que llevaría así... Unas 2 semanas.
Ingresé en el hospital acto seguido, me dieron
2 veces unas pastillitas para ver si empezaba las contracciones por mi misma.
Debía parirla, como si estuviese viva. El parto de mi primera hija había sido un
caos y muy violento, pero esta era otra etapa, y sabía que Oihane me estaría
acompañando. Fue un ritual de despedida. 2 días para empezar el trabajo de
parto. Estuve centrándome en mi, haciendo mis asanas, y en un momento abrí los
brazos y me abandoné. Permití que sucediera. Despues de tantas horas de espera,
entonces, Todo se sucedió muy rápido, y en media hora ya estaba fuera.
Lloré lo que debí llorar, y sé que su muerte me
enseñó. Me sentí acompañada en todo momento, y supe que ella estaba allí en
alguna ocasión. y tuve que aceptar, y acepté, que hay tanto que no sabemos...que
hay tanto en este mundo que existe y que nuestros ojos no ven....
At the time of your experience was there an associated life-threatening event?
No
Was the experience difficult to express in words?
Yes
Las palabras amor, paz, calma, alegría, fuerza.... se quedan cortas.
The words love, peace, tranquility,
happiness and power... fall short.
At what time during the experience were you at your highest level
of
consciousness and alertness?
Durante su muerte
en sí, y especialmente durante el parto.
During her death, and especially during the
birth.
How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience
compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness?
More consciousness and alertness than normal
Mayor sentimiento de estar unida a una misma
energía, aunque no lo comprendía del todo...
A better feeling of oneness and an energy,
although I didn't understand it completely.
Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that
you had immediately prior to the time of the experience.
Misma visión! Pero muy distinta percepción.
The same vision! But a very different perception.
Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that
you had immediately prior to the time of the experience.
Misma audición, o no fui consciente de ello.
The same hearing, or I wasn't aware of it!
Did you see or hear any earthly events that were occurring during a time that
your consciousness / awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body?
Uncertain
La que se separó de su cuerpo fue mi hija, yo solo sentí que atravesaba el
mío... Fue su alma, o espíritu la que dejó su cuerpo, y yo tuve el honor de
percibirlo y sentirlo.
That which left her body was my daughter,
and only I felt her going through mine... It was her soul, or spirit which left
her body, and I had the honor of perceiving and feeling it.
What emotions did you feel during the experience?
Amor, paz, calma, alegría, fuerza.
Love, peace, calm, happiness and strength.
Did you pass into or through a tunnel?
No
Did you see an unearthly light?
No
Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an
unidentifiable voice?
No
Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth
who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha,
etc.)?
No
Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings?
No
Did you become aware of past events in your life during your experience?
No
Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world?
No
Did
time seem to speed up or slow down?
No
Did you suddenly seem to understand everything?
No
Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?
No
Did you come to a border or point of no return?
No
Did scenes from the future come to you?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any
specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not)
continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)?
Uncertain
Todo el conocimiento a este respecto me vino
claramente al cabo de dos semanas, cuando me dijeron que Oihane había muerto.
Por esto he puesto incierto, porque no fue durante la experiencia en sí. Pero
sí, claro, Oihane me enseñó tantas Verdades, entre ellas que algo más habrá de
lo que nuestros ojos ven, y ese algo es fuerza y optimismo.
All the knowledge in respect of this came to
me clearly, after two weeks, when they said to me that Oihane had died. This
made me uncertain, because it wasn't during the experience itself. And yet
certainly Oihane showed me so many truths, amongst them something more than that
which our eyes now see, and this is strength and optimism.
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that God or a supreme being either does (or does not) exist?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that you either did (or did not) exist prior to this lifetime?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that a mystical universal connection or unity/oneness either does (or does not)
exist?
Yes
Esta conexión si la sentí con Oihane durante su muerte, sin aún entender,
durante las dos semanas a modo de fuerza y alegría, y especialmente durante el
parto con la energía universal. Fué sentir y abandonarme a esta conexión y
empezó el trabajo de parto. Para mí el parto también forma parte de la misma
experiencia, aunque en otra.
Yes this connection I felt with Oihane
during her death, still not comprehending, during those two weeks through
strength or happiness, and especially during the birth, universal energy. It was
to feel and to abandon myself to this connection and then began the work of
birth. For me the birth formed part of the same experience, although another
step.
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding earthly life’s meaning or purpose?
Uncertain
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding earthly life’s difficulties, challenges, or hardships?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding love?
Yes
Sí, sin saber aún de su muerte, al sentir esa energía supe que era amor, y
que este amor está muy a dentro de cada una de nosotras, las personas.
Yes, still not knowing of her death, to
feeling this energy I knew that it was love, and that this love was very deep
within every one of us.
During your experience, did you encounter any other specific information /
awareness that you have not shared in other questions that is relevant to living
our earthly lives?
No
Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge or purpose?
Yes
Ese amor que llevamos dentro, que es fuerza poder y alegría.
This love that we carry within, this is
power strength and happiness.
What occurred during your experience included:
Content that was both consistent and not
consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience.
No comprendo del todo la pregunta, creo, pero diré que en
ese momento yo acababa de entrar de lleno en un mundo que mi mente atea y
científica no quería comprender ni aceptar, y que mis dos hijas (las dos!)
vinieron a romper. Maite empezó (mi hija mayor, hoy tiene 9 años y sigue
rompiendo mis estrictos moldes), y Oihane continuó. No puedes seguir igual
después de haber sentido su muerte en mis entrañas. Son y serán mis maestras, y
a mí me encanta aprender.
I don't completely understand the question,
I believe, but I will say that in that moment I had just entered into a world
where my scientific and skeptic mind didn't want to accept and understand, and
that my two daughters (The two!) had come to break it. Maite began (my eldest,
daughter she is nine and keeps breaking my strict molds), and Oihane continues.
You just can't continue the same, after having felt her death in my inards. They
are and will be my masters, and I am eager to learn.
How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events
that occurred around the time of the experience?
I
remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred
around the time of th
Discuss any changes that might have occurred in your life after your experience:
Los cambios
en mi suceden lentamente, pero desde adolescente jamás pensé que un día el 90 %
de mis lecturas fueran de espiritualidad y crecimiento personal.
Sigo negando la existencia de Dios como tal, pero quizás
porque no me gusta el nombre, pero sí creo en una sola energía creadora de la
que formamos parte y a la que todos volvemos, y creo firmemente en la
reencarnación. En ello mi primera hija también tiene mucho que ver, con sus
historias que me contaba en esos tiempos y su gran percepción. Quien no va
a creer a su hija? Tampoco jamás hubiese dicho que un día escribiría en una
página como esta, jajaja! Y aquí estoy, por si a alguna persona le puede servir
mi experiencia...
The changes in me happened slowly, but from youth I
never thought that one day 90% of my reading would be on spirituality and
personal growth. I keep denying the existence of God, as said, but maybe because
I don't like the name, because yes I believe in a single energy, creator of that
which we are a part, and where we return, I firmly believe in reincarnation. In
this my first daughter was involved, with her stories that she told me around
this time, and her great perception. Who is not going to believe their daughter?
Neither would I ever say that one day I would write in a page like this!!!
HaHaHa! And here I am, and through this I hope my experience can help
someone....
My experience directly resulted in:
Large changes in my life
Did you have any changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that
occurred as a result of the experience?
Yes
Muchos valores míos han nacido y/o crecido conmigo, pero ahora los
contextualizo más y les doy mayor significado, y también he aprendido a
relativizar, y perdonar a los que no son o actúan como actuaría yo. También me
perdono más a mi misma y he aprendido a amarme más. Mi trabajo en la tierra
ahora se ha vuelto más introspectivo, pero lo bueno es que me dejo mi tiempo
para cambiar y conocerme mejor, con lo que he aprendido a entender un poco mejor
el mundo y se que cuando una todas las piezas de mi puzzle y me sepa amar desde
muy adentro algo muy grande surgirá de mí en esta tierra, y para esta tierra que
tanto he amado siempre y continuo amando.
Yes many of my values have been born, and/or
have grown with me, but now I contextualize them more and give them greater
significance and also I have learned to put them into perspective, and forgive
those that aren't or haven't acted as I would act. Also I forgive myself more, I
have learnt to love myself more. My work on Earth, has now become more
introspective, but the good thing is that I give myself time to change, and know
myself better, with that which I have learned and understood, a little better
about the world, and I know that one of the pieces of the puzzle is that I now
know how to love myself from deep within, something very great surges from
within me on this earth, for this earth that I have always loved so much, and
continue to love.
Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your
experience that you did not have before the experience?
No
Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful
or significant to you?
Sentir esa energía de la que tanto se habla, de
manera física y real, como en una tele antigua, cómo atravesaba mi cuerpo con
amor y se elevaba y se expandía, fue la prueba que mi mente necesitaba para
dejar atrás viejas maneras de pensar y actuar en mí.
EEl momento que me abrí y permití que entrara lo
que fuese necesario para parir a Maite, allí también sentí una conexión profunda
que me dió la valentía la serenidad y la fuerza para realizar un trabajo de
parto fluïdo. Yo no lo cuento todo a todo el mundo, pero lo que sí que cuento es
que Oihane me enseñó a parir.
En otra vida ya sabré hacerlo, je je.
To feel this energy which I am speaking about, in a real and
physical way, like an old type TV, as it flowed through my body, with love and
rose up and expanded, this was the proof that my mind needed to leave behind old
ways of thinking and behaving.
The moment that I opened up and allowed to enter would have been
necessary to give birth to Maite, there I also felt a strong connection that
gave me the courage the serenity and the strength to manage the work of a fluid
labour. I don't tell everything to everyone in the world, but that which I do is
that Oihane showed me how to give birth. In another life I will already know how
to do it, HaHa!
Have you ever shared this experience with others?
Uncertain
A pocas personas, la verdad, pero dentro de mi propia
timidez, cada vez estoy más cansada de callar.o:p>
The truth is, to very few people, but within my own shyness, every
time I am less reluctant to keep quiet.
DDid you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your
experience?
Uncertain
No directamente, sí de voces, pero mi propio
ateísmo negaba la opción y me reía.o:p>
Not directly, yes in voices, but my own atheism denied me the chance
and I laughed.
What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to
weeks) after it happened:
Experience was definitely real
Cuando pasó no entendí mucho pero me dió mucha fuerza que necesitaba.
Dos semanas después lo ví clarísimo, aunque mi mente luchó conmigo para intentar
clasificarlo y explicarlo, y lo he ido asimilando e integrando en mi poco a
poco. Pero en todo momento lo ví como real, aunque intentara buscarle una
explicación algo racional.
When it happened I didn't understand very much, but they gave me all
the strength I needed. Two weeks later I could see it clearly, although my mind
fought, within me to understand it, explain it, I had been assimilating it, and
integrating it into myself little by little. But at every moment, I could see it
as real, although I should have looked for a rational explanation..
What do you believe about the reality of your experience at the current time:
Experience was definitely real.
Tengo totalmente integrado en mí esto como experiencia, y quizás por este motivo
me ha llegado el line a este lugar..../span>
I have totally integrated it into myself as an experience, and maybe
for this reason I have arrived at this state....
Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your
experience?
Yes
Sobre todo con mi hija mayor, y con mi familia
más cercana, pero también con todos los demás. Pienso que la muerte de Oihane
fue uno de los motivos, pero luego han habido muchos más. Esta experiencia fue
una más. Muy importante, pero una más, en mi cambio de relación con el mundo.
Especially with my older daughter, and with closer family, but also
with others. I think that the death of Oihane was one of the reasons, but then
there had been many more. This experience was one more. Very important, but one
more, in changing my relationship with the world.
Have your religious beliefs/spiritual practices changed
specifically as a result of your experience?
Yes
Actualmente estoy en un periodo muy introspectivo que nunca hubiese imaginado.
Yes. Recently I have been in a more introspective period, more than
I would have ever imagined.
At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the
experience?
No
Is there anything else that you would like to add about your experience?
No sé si describirla como
experiencia cercana a la muerte, pues yo no moría, pero la sentí en mis
entrañas, y me enseñó, un previo, humildemente, de lo maravilloso que puede
llegar a ser.
Como una
mariposa dorada.
II don't know
if describing it as a NDE is appropriate, because I hadn't died, but I felt in
my innards that she was showed me a preview humbly, of how fantastic she had
become. Like a golden butterfly.
Did the questions asked and information that
you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?/span>
Yes
What could a
national organization with an interest in near death experience (NDE) do that
would be of interest to you?
Así está bien. La información
está en internet. A quien le tenga que llegar le llegará, y a quien no le llega
es que aún no quiere saberlo. Mi madre dice que nadie ha vuelto del otro mundo
para contarlo, yo siempre le digo que está lleno de gente que ha vuelto y lo
cuenta, pero no nos lo creemos. Hay que vivirlo, sin más.
The information is on the internet.
To those to
which it should reach it will reach, and to those to which it doesn't reach it
is that they don't want to know about it. My mother says that no-one has come
back from the other world to tell their tale, I always say to her that it is
full of people that have returned and told it, but we don't believe them. You
have to live it - no more.
Are there any other questions that we could ask to help you communicate
your experience?
Pienso que es tan extenso que se hace largo, o a mi se me
ha hecho largo, aunque interesante. Yo no añadiría, aunque no soy la más
apropiada para responder a ésto porque mi experiencia es distinta y a veces no
encaja en este perfil de test, más enfocado a gente que lo ha vivido en primera
persona.
Una pregunta me ha sorprendido, que yo eliminaría 100%: la
raza..... La raza? No es ya un concepto obsoleto? La raza?
Persona. No más.
De corazón, gracias por vuestro trabajo!
I
think that it is so widespread that it has to be long, or to me it has been
long, although interesting. I won't say any more, except that I am not the most
appropriate to answer this because my experience was different and sometimes not
fitting in with the appropriate profile, more focused on people that have
experienced it in the first person.